September 2025

September 2025 | Oceanography

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What did your oceanographic education (or academic

career) give you that is useful in your current job?

It’s hard to do science without a solid understanding of prior work

and established methods. The part of my education I rely on most is

the extensive reading I did in graduate school—both foundational

ecological theory and applied methods. That background helps me

stay grounded and build effectively on existing knowledge.

Is there any course or training you wish you had during

graduate school to better meet job market demands?

I always feel like I could use more statistics. I took several statis-

tics courses during my education, but I wish I’d taken even more.

A strong stats foundation is incredibly useful, no matter what area

of science you go into.

Is the job satisfying? What aspects do you like best

or least?

Yes, I find the job very satisfying. I still get to do my own science,

but I also work on projects that bring new people into the field and

make deep-sea science more accessible. It’s a really nice balance of

doing science and enabling others to do it, too.

Degree: When, where, what,

and what in?

I earned my bachelor’s degree in

physics (with a minor in French)

from Harvard University in 2011.

After spending a year taking classes

and doing research in Berlin,

Germany, I pursued a PhD in

physics (specifically, physical oceanography) at the University of

Michigan, finishing in 2019.

Did you stay in academia at all, and if so, for how long?

After completing my PhD, I continued to work for my PhD advisor

for about 10 months to wrap up a research project (while living in

Australia). I was then thrilled to be offered a postdoctoral position

at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University

in New York. However, the COVID-19 shutdowns intervened

before I had the chance to move to New York City to start the

position. I ended up working as a postdoc at Australian National

University in Canberra, Australia, for just over a year, while begin-

ning collaboration with the Columbia University group. Finally,

I moved to New York City and started my Columbia University

postdoc. I stayed there for six months.

Paige E. Martin, User Training Team Lead, Australia’s Climate Simulator

(ACCESS-NRI) — paige.martin@anu.edu.au

How did you go about searching for a job outside of

the university setting?

After finishing my PhD, I applied to one or two non-academic jobs

that I found listed on the Earth Science Jobs Network email list. I

never heard back from those jobs and ended up deciding I should

look at more postdoctoral positions. I went that route for the first

few years post-PhD.

During my Lamont postdoc, I heard about a job opening at

NASA from someone in my (academic) professional network

whom I met co-convening a couple sessions at online conferences

during the COVID-19 shutdown. It was a job in “open science,”

directed toward someone with a solid scientific research back-

ground but also knowledge and experience with open science

(such as open-source software, open data, and generally making

science more accessible). My interests and experience lined up

extremely well, and I decided to apply. But before applying, I talked

with someone who had a similar position at NASA to get a sense of

the job—something I always recommend doing (for academic and

non-academic jobs alike).

Is this the only job (post-academia) that you’ve had?

If not, what else did you do?

No, I am currently working in my second job post-academia.

My first job post-academia was as a support scientist at NASA,

working in the Office of the Chief Science Data Officer at NASA

Do you have any recommendations for new grads

looking for jobs?

Two things come to mind. First, practice polite persistence.

Advocate for yourself, even if you’re being ignored at first. No one

will care about your career as much as you do, so you need to fol-

low up—sometimes that means emailing the same person multiple

times until you get a response. The key is to be persistent without

being a pest. It’s a delicate balance, but crucial.

Second, find something you’re really good at and lean into it.

Develop a specific, marketable skill—like GIS or data analysis—

that sets you apart. These skills are useful across many sectors and

show your commitment to learning. Becoming an expert in some-

thing that others find difficult can really help you stand out.

ARTICLE DOI. https://doi.org/10.5670/oceanog.2025.e306